**assuming streaming. Satisfactory, my current obsession, runs okay in the Frame but it’s definitely pushing it.
I’ve never had any kind of VR so this is all new to me, but having my game window in a comfortable place with other windows or desktops floating around me is the peak futuristic experience to me.
To reference one of my favorite books, Snow Crash, this is a place I could imagine meeting the Librarian and playing with a model of earth.
I could genuinely imagine working in this thing with the right peripherals.
Edit: flat, not 2D.
Disagree strongly. My trusty old 65" LG C1 is considerably better for 2D games than any VR headset I’ve tried. It has better colors, deeper contrast, brighter HDR, higher resolution, higher refresh rate. (And before you say something about the spyware, my LG has never had an internet connection so I don’t worry about it.)
If you usually game on an older, smaller IPS or TN monitor (less than 30"), I can understand why you would say something like like this. In that case a VR headset would be a major upgrade for you, just from the increase in perceived display size, along with a better refresh rate & response time. But if you have a decent-sized gaming OLED, then it’s no competition. The gaming display wins every time over most VR hesdsets.
For me, the only thing I use my VR headset for is for VR porn and VR games. Everything else gets enjoyed on the TV.
I’m farsighted. I can’t imagine the headaches I’d get using vr
It doesn’t really work that way because of the lenses. Your vision works the same both in and out of VR.
yes, focusing on a screen inches away is still focusing on a screen inches away
The
stereoscopic displaylense forces your eyes to focus as if the content were further away. It’s wild. I don’t need glasses for things up close, but I have to jam my glasses into the headsets to see properly. I assume the opposite would be true, but if you have experienced otherwise please let me know. I’m curious.Have you tried it? I don’t have vision problems but even I was really impressed with how “natural” it felt.
I’ve done a lot of FPV flying with older goggles and it’s exactly as you describe - focusing on a screen that feels entirely too close. Not the case at all when I used my friend’s VR headset! I think he has a second gen oculus so it’s probably even better now.
I can only fly FPV for half an hour before I get a headache but I binged like 2 hours of [VR escape room game I forgot the name of] with no issue
Do you have stereoscopic goggles or box goggles? Boxes make my eyes hurt after a while. The ones with lenses still put the screen pretty close but it’s a lot easier on the eyes. As a bonus, you can adjust the focus of each so you can correct for vision without mashing your glasses in there.
I have fatsharks but can’t remember exactly which, some mid range model (Dominator v2? Maybe?). I can adjust them to feel natural but after a few minutes, my head hurts and I need to close one eye. Kinda defeats the point of goggles so I mostly use my $40 AliExpress box goggles from 2016.
I’ve used some other fatsharks and it was about the same experience. My friend has whatever the newest DJI set is (before they got banned in the US) but I haven’t tried them yet.
[Edit] my goggles are indeed Dominator v2s and the other model I’ve used is the HDO or HDO2
I can adjust them to feel natural but after a few minutes, my head hurts and I need to close one eye.
Are you focusing the lenses one at a time with the other eye closed and connected to a vtx? It’s weird that vr doesn’t bother you by the goggles do, all I can guess is that one lens isn’t focused perfectly.
Even in the early days with a Vive, I found games like Crypt of the Necrodancer and Hollow Knight to be weirdly immersive in VR mode.
I think it’s the blocking out of the outside world that did it for me, plus who cares about the old screen door effect when it’s pixel graphics?
Iirc, there is also a way to play old emulated games in a made up 1990s bedroom on a CRT in VR, but I can’t remember how.
(And on the topic of emulation, I also wonder if they ever made progress on the emulated Dolphin VR games? Star Fox was a fantastic experience but was still a bit glitchy a decade ago.)
Gonna need my keyboard for satisfactory
I understand the appeal, but the discomfort of prolonged headset wearing and the lower detail adds up, idk. But my experience is limited to the index, which is much heavier than the frame
Two monitors is hard to beat. One for satisfactory modeler and one for satisfactory
Edit: there are mods out there to make satisfactory an actual vr game btw
This my initial thought as well: Satisfactory would be challenging without keyboard and mouse.
Satisfactory has controller support, I’ve been playing it on my steamdeck lately
It’s the only way I’ve ever played it for 200+ hours
I’d be interested to hear if you’re still doing this a year from now. I’m a huge VR nerd, to the extent that when I first got VR in like 2019 I didn’t have even the slightest inclination to play anything non-VR anymore and I gave away my consoles. I didn’t go back to any flat-screen gaming for over a year. The meta quest has actually had multiple ways to do pretty solid remote desktop for years now, and I also have a dongle that lets me connect any HDMI source and play on a massive virtual screen. I’ve used these things a couple of times, but I always prefer just using a normal screen or TV. I have a headstrap that makes my VR headset very comfy and I have no problem playing for hours at a time, but for flat screen gaming, I don’t want to have to wear something on my head. I’ve seen many people expressing excitement for using the steam frame this way, but I have to assume it’s mostly people new to VR and they probably won’t stick with it, but maybe I’m wrong.
I’m hyper aware that I’m just a few days into it and totally new to VR, so I’m actually interested as well in how long I feel this way.
I’ll provide updates.
Awesome setup OP!
Quick PSA to anyone reading, “XR” glasses like the Viture or XREAL offerings paired with an awesome project called breezy-desktop (https://github.com/wheaney/breezy-desktop) also provide an excellent experience, and the glasses can be found for around $300-400. I played a decent amount of STALKER 2 with them and it was great.
+1 for Viture if you’re a little near-sighted, as they have individual knobs for each eye to dial in the crispness. Xreal required inserts to be modified by an optometrist (and still didn’t feel quite right in my case >.< )
I have the original Viture pros and can confirm. I’m decently near sighted at like -3.25 and can reasonably use them without my contacts or personalized lenses.
I really enjoy streaming games to my Frame, but I’m not big on using the controllers for flat games. The Steam Controller + Steam Frame combo is excellent though
The back/underside paddle buttons on the Steam Controller are way better than they are on the Steam Deck in ways that are tough to describe, so I’ve found myself using them a lot. Being able to essentially squeeze to activate my jetpack or reload my gun, depending on which hand, really made it easier for me to get around and engage in combat in Satisfactory.
I think it’s because the “handles” on the controller are quite a bit meatier than the side handles of the Deck. My second and ring finger seem to slot perfectly onto them.
And the bumpers are so much better too. Wish I could mod my deck with controller bumpers…
That’s definitely my plan for flat games when I get home from the trip I’m on.
It’s a bit confusing to call “Non VR Games” games as “2D Games”. As this is not a virtual reality, maybe we can call them “Reality Games”. /s
