And what category does the PS2, Wii, Xbox, Nintendo DS/3DS fit into? They aren’t retro, but they’re not really “modern” either
Edit:sorry about posting 4 times, it kept telling me that it had a correction error
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Retro is everything you were in to when you were 12.
My line is at the transition from 2d to 3d mostly.
2d is retro. Early 3d is like the awkward teenage years. Everything since Xbox 360/PS3 is modern to me.
Yup. Initial 3D games were, let’s just say awkward.
To me, GameCube and PS2 are retro. Wii is getting there, and god, I feel old. Had to convince myself to put down “GameCube” instead of “N64”.
I would almost say anything that doesn’t require an internet connection to work with 100% content could be considered retro at this point.
20 years is considered vintage if that helps.
Wait… So ssbm is vintage? Oh gosh, time sure is fast
20 years is vintage, yes.
I’ve been playing a vintage game for 2 years and i didn’t even know? gosh
Anything that does not get made anymore is classed as retro is it not?
That’s where I currently draw the line. Unfortunately, there’s a perception that obsolete is not necessarily retro. Typically, a machine that was just abandoned (ie the Xbox One) is not considered fashionably retro… just old.
Things were a lot easier back in the 1990s where the line was more easily drawn. Everything before the video game crash was retro; everything after was modern. But time marched on and the 21st century arrived, and the rules changed. Now even game systems with polygons are retro! Now even game systems with hyper-realistic graphics, like the Xbox 360, are retro! I feel like Danny Glover. I’m getting too old to keep track of this shit.
It still doesn’t feel like anything on the XBox 360 and maybe even the PS2 is retro in the same way that older games are retro. In the Xbox 360 era games had already settled into conventions we are using to this day.
Hell, GTA 5 and Skyrim have been released for the XBox 360 and they keep being rereleased remastered with no significant gameplay changes to this day.
But SNES? PS1? That’s a whole different world.
like the Xbox 360, are retro
That’s just one generation ag… oh
In my POV, anything past the current generation - 1(so current gen + previous gen), it is considered retro Xbox One X? Not retro. Xbox One? Not retro. Xbox 360? Retro.
Anything with a capacitor about to blow. Seriously get rid of your clock capacitor xbox collectors!
How I like to see it, going backwards on the timeline (you can tell mine was a PlayStation household lol);
- PS5 Era = Modern
- PS4 Era = Last Gen
- PS3 Era = Transitional
- PS2 Era = Classic
- PSX to NES Era = Retro
Anything before that is Prehistoric.
I see as retro as everything that’s unsupported (doesn’t get new official games, hardware isn’t sold) and emulateable.
I mean, yes sure SNES feels “more retro” than a PS3 for sure, but games in 8bit or 16bit style are still made today. And after the sprite-based consoles, there is no clear cut anymore.
I suppose you could make a cut at shader support, i.e. after PS2, but then then the OG Xbox is between worlds then and spoils the generational difference.
Someone suggested HDMI, but the first iteration of X360 didn’t have that, while older consoles like GC can be more easily retrofitted.
So, either the cut-off is between sprites/16b and 3D/32b, orrr… Just the support.
Well I suppose it’s what you define as retro. To me Retro is an era, unmoving in time, after years have past and the PS5 becomes as old in age as the PSX is now, then do we consider the PS5 retro? What of the PSX then? Or do we move on from “modern” as a current(in this hypothetical) standard? Post-modern, neo-renaissance whatever the new terms we use end up being.
For me I’d say retro is Gen 6 and below, but specifically including the Dreamcast and PS2, but probably excluding the Xbox, and maybe GameCube.
The Xbox was the first console with internal storage built in and both the Xbox and GameCube used shader pipelining aka modern GPU architecture. Basically, I feel if shader compilation is a requirement for emulating it, I don’t consider it retro.
I feel like gc is retro because it had weird conventions. Weird ass controller. Weird controls. Xbox had started to settle in with modern standard schemes. Especially for things like fps and tps.
True, and it’s why I’m on the fence about GameCube. It’s kinda retro but kinda not. The weird controller and small disc sizes make it feel retro, but it has modern-ish dual stage triggers, and a PowerPC architecture with a modern GPU design, double precision floats, OOE compute.
Meanwhile the PS2 was still weird, included the PS1 chip, and mostly just had a massive fill rate to make up for its shortcomings.
~15 years is the arbitrary cutoff that feels right to me, despite how old it is continuing to make me feel
GameCube, PS2, and Xbox are now retro since Xbox Series X and PS5 are out.
When PS6 and Xbox 5 comes out, Xbox 360, PS3, and Wii will be retro.
I’m not really sure I consider anything retro? Old tech ends up still getting supported, just by indie hobbyists. But outside of that I guess XB360 and below since it’s not being produced anymore.
I have a simple definition, hardware is retro if it’s no longer being produced, software is retro if it’s no longer beind sold
EDIT: posting this here because I can’t seem to respond to a kbin user below, the message never goes through:
A digital re-release is different from the original release, in my opinion. For example, Full Throttle is on steam but I had the original one, which came in a box. You can even download the CD-ROM ISO somewhere, but you can’t find that box with the CD-ROM anymore (unless you buy it secondhand from someone).
I like the theory, but is the original Legend of Zelda retro?
Cause Nintendo puts that up for sale every new game console release. But that is one of the original adventure games from 1986.
Digital releases muddies the water somewhat. But, as far as I know, Nintendo doesn’t issue the original NES cartridge anymore – so it’s still retro for me
So never heard of GoG huh?
Personally I classify everything older than 30 years (in video gaming) to be retro-gaming i my mind! So even the first Pokémon games are retro to me :)
