• Wodge@lemmy.world
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    3 years ago

    People buy a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games. As good as the steam deck is (and I really do want one, but GabeN has decided that Switzerland does not exist), you ain’t going to be playing Splatoon on it.

    Not everything has to be a contest. Let people like things that they like.

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      3 years ago

      Maybe not Splatoon specifically, but switch-exclusive single-player games run comparably or better on switch emulators running on the deck

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        3 years ago

        Steam exclusive content of games isn’t a good thing. Moreover, it’s only a limitation of current technology until better hardware and software are developed. The Switch 2 can be better than Steam deck.

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          3 years ago

          Steam exclusive content

          great, because nobody asked for that anyways.

          The Switch 2 can be better than Steam deck.

          and the Deck 2 will be better than the Switch 2. what’s your point?

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            Deck 2 won’t be better because just like last time people like you overhype it to science fiction. It’s not a PC that plays games, its a Linux based operating system that requires Proton. You people falsely believe Valve is promoting Linux. Hardware specs aren’t good enough and cheap Valve doesn’t want to pay more.

            Nintendo has proven to create handheld devices before Valve was a company. Valve doesn’t care about gaming, Nintendo cares about their games.

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              Valve literally runs the proton development team lmao. It’s a downstream of wine with lots of additions like dxvk which translates GPU instructions from DX to Vulkan. Without proton, wine would be like a solid several years behind. All open source of course, so feel free to pull request or fork (which many people have).

              I would bet actual money that the Switch 2 will be less powerful than the current Steam Deck. Nintendo is really good at making low powered handhelds. The Switch was the first Nintendo handheld that actually used any serious hardware.

              The current switch is highly customized for Nintendo’s design and game development. It absolutely struggles to even emulate GameCube games because it doesn’t have enough juice to run anything besides native Switch games.

              Steam Deck on the other hand has more than enough power to comfortably emulate Switch games, and easily any older consoles. Additionally, linux has been shown to run both native and windows games better than windows.

              Wine Is Not an Emulator. All it has to do is translate APIs for windows only games, not emulate a whole windows machine. It is extremely effective, which allows Linux to provide equivalent if not better game performance.

              Valve cares a lot more about making all games accessible to their customers and allowing the community to participate in modding. Nintendo cares a lot more about making AAA games and protecting their IPs. They are almost complete opposites in the video game industry lol.

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                No one in Valve works in Proton’s development. You can’t lie your way out of GitHub contributions history, you can see it and i can see it.

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                  The top 6 contributors are 4 from codeweavers and 2 from valve my guy.

                  Even then, codeweavers are their proton development partner, because they actually spent money on a qualified team of wine hackers with years of experience.

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              3 years ago

              What… The fuck have you been smoking? Not a single word you wrote down has any logic to it, you gotta be trying to sound this stupid.

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                1. People say you’ll be able to play games
                  You don’t play games, it’s a false statement. Linux limitations restrict your access to many games.

                2. Batteries are better
                  No, they were average

                3. Buy anywhere
                  No, you can’t EU had to wait entire year and Asia is exclusively for a unknown 3rd party market.

                4. Use as a office PC
                  Nope, you’re not going anywhere with that tiny screen to type stuff for work. Additional hardware is required.

                5. Offline play
                  Still under DRM rules for games and still 30 days requirement to authenticate your ownership.

                It’s overhyped jackass

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                  Don’t play games, huh? I must’ve been merely playing with my imagination.

                  Also, tell me you’ve never even touched a Deck without telling me you’ve never touched a Deck.

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      Right. Nintendo would’ve gone the way of Sega but they’re so good at developing software they get people to buy their hardware.

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      3 years ago

      you don’t get it, this is Gabens quest to save all the whales. it’s like a reverse Moby dick.

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      Uuuh… You could. Single player for the most part, but Splatoon can be played on the Deck.

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    3 years ago

    The Switch has worse specs than most phones these days, literally a phone is better. And don’t get me started on the eShop, it’s so bad.

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      I bought a switch just to play with some simple games with my nephew. The last time i had anything to do with nintendo was the gamecube, and that was more of a joke purchase, but i still liked the quirkyness of it a lot.
      It has some cool features, like the controllers are fun (fun, not good) but holy hell, the e-shop… Also i was kinda shocked that they want full price for mario kart, a game from 2014! And the dlc is absolutely predetory. I asked in a Nintendo sub about that and if that is normal for nintendo games, because i genuinely didn’t know. And i caught so much shit for that. People told me that the game is just worth that much becase all the maps and stuff. And the dlc is cheap enough and yada yada. I even felt bad because they all called me a troll who only wants to stirr some shit up.
      The other day i was listening to the jimqisition podcast and she talked about marvel’s midnight suns and she absolutely loved the game, except that they put dlc costumes right next to your normal costumes to kinda trick you into buying pixel clothing, and that it’s so gross that she wouldn’t even recommend the game. Nintendo does exactly that, but in a game for children, but still they are somehow the wholesome vidio game company, with one of the most toxic fanboys i have ever seen. The console has trouble running disco Elysium for fucks sake. I absolutely regret giving them money, and that was right before other waaaaay better handheld consoles hit the market.

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        Nintendo (adult) fanboys are so bad. It reminds me of Xbox/PS fanboys a decade ago, only that seems to have thankfully shrunk in prominence because I assume most have grown up. Whereas Nintendo’s has only seemed to grow.

        Criticism of any Nintendo game is met with some serious wrath in Nintendo communities. Especially if it’s Zelda.

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          The same people who scoff at filthy xbox peasants playing at less than 4K @240fps with maxed out graphics are the first to say “graphics aren’t that important” whenever I mention how long in the tooth the switch is.

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          I like a decent bit of Nintendo stuff. Donkey Kong, Metroid, whatever are fine.

          But they’re 2D platformers that aren’t notably better than at least dozens of others that are $20-30 full price and get discounts close to Nintendo’s in terms of dollars off. Ignoring dark vs not, Mario Wonder and Metroid Dread are charging the same as stuff like Elden Ring, Horizon Forbidden West, BG3, etc that are massively larger in scope and investment. Until those things get discounted and Nintendo’s 2D games don’t.

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      Never understood why so many people supported the closing of eShop for 3DS, I get the feeling all Nintendo consoles are on a timer at this point. Never had the same feeling with the Deck, which can be easily modified to not be chained to the Steam storefront regardless. You’d have to jailbreak Nintendo consoles to gain any semblance of independent functionality, possibly bricking the darn thing in the process.

      Owned both 3DS and Switch to play Pokemon, but I sure as hell ain’t getting whatever’s next.

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      In a bad way because some are scams and others are so inappropriate that I could get banned in this group for talking about it.

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        This statement is whack, you’re claiming that the deck, which functions as a glorified handheld laptop, only has more games than a Nintendo handheld because of… scams and inappropriate methods??? Couldn’t be that PC games have existed since 1970s, right?

        The ‘steam deck verified’ list the article quotes barely scratches the surface of the amount of games which work, games outside of the steam store function flawlessly 75% of the time with another 15% after 10 minutes of tweaks.

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    And non of the games on Steam are Nintendo games. Sure you’d could use an emulator but the average mainstream casual gamer can’t be bothered to learn how to do that. And Nintendo is a much better known brand than Steam with the casual crowd. Nintendo is not really competing with Steam. Smart phones, which most people already have and the games are free, are a much bigger threat to Nintendo than the Steam Deck.

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    3 years ago

    Still only 24 hours in a day

    My steam library is massive and I’ve got tons of games I’ll never play.

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    Apples and oranges comparison. The Steam Deck is PC-adjacent hardware that can access a back catalogue of thousands of games going back twenty years, well before the Steam Deck was even an idea.

    The Switch is a game console with its own ecosystem, and it has existed for six years. Games have to be developed specifically for it. The only thing both have in common is that they’re handhelds.

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    I barely touch my switch. Only one or two games that were actually worth playing that actually felt smooth. Completely different story with my steam deck.

    Will probably sell the switch